Which is cheaper, the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm or the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG?

At MSRP the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG is the cheaper of the two at $745, against $980 for the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm — a $235 gap before any retailer discounting.

What movement does the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm run compared to the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG?

Both watches run automatic movements — the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm uses the Seiko NH35 and the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG uses the Seiko NH36.

Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mmvsTornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG

Q: Which has better water resistance, the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm or the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG?

The Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG is rated to 100m versus 50m for the Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm.

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Alexander Dauvin Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm

MSRP $980

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MSRP $745

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The measurements

Sized up.

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Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm

CISO M38 MAC V SOG

Diameter

Across the case, crown excluded.

38mm

Lug-to-Lug

The number that decides fit.

n/a

43.6mm

Thickness

How it sits under a cuff.

n/a

12.4mm

Water Resistance

Rated in metres, not marketing.

50m

100m

highest

Power Reserve

How long it runs off the wrist.

n/a

42h

MSRP

Sticker price, new.

$980

$745

lowest

Movement

What drives the hands.

Seiko NH35

Seiko NH36

Spec

Patrick Pedy Automatic 38mm 38mm

CISO M38 MAC V SOG

Case

5 specs

Thickness

n/a

12.45mm

Lug-to-Lug

n/a

43.6mm

Lug Width

n/a

20mm

Material

n/a

Stainless Steel

Water Resistance

50m

100m

Crystal & Dial

4 specs

Crystal

n/a

Sapphire

AR Coating

n/a

Yes

Dial Color

Red Opal

n/a

Lume

None

Superluminova

Movement

2 specs

Caliber

Seiko NH35

Seiko NH36

Power Reserve

42h

Pricing

1 specs

MSRP

$980

$745

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