Archimede Watches Klassik 39 SWvsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Archimede Watches Klassik 39 SW at true scale

Klassik 39 SW

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time at true scale

Presage Cocktail Time

Diameter

39mm

40.5mm

Lug-to-Lug

45mm

n/a

Thickness

9.9mm

lowest

11.8mm

Water Resistance

50m

50m

Power Reserve

n/a

41h

MSRP

$1,115

$475

lowest

Movement

Sellita SW200-1

Seiko 4R35

Case

4 specs
Diameter
39mm
40.5mm
Thickness
9.9mm
11.8mm
Lug-to-Lug
45mm
n/a
Lug Width
n/a
20mm

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
n/a
Box
Dial Color
n/a
n/a

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW200-1
Seiko 4R35
Power Reserve
n/a
41h
Jewels
0
23

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,115
$475
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Archimede Watches Klassik 39 SW

Archimede Watches Klassik 39 SW owners praise its timeless elegance, harmonic styling, and classic beauty, highlighted by hand-applied Arabic numerals and specially designed, slightly curved hands. Reviewers and owners alike note the great workmanship and high-quality Ickler case, with one owner reporting excellent timing at 0.4 seconds per day. The 39mm size is found comfortable on a 7-inch wrist by some, though it is less popular than the 42mm variant. Some owners find the "AUTOMATIK" insignia on the dial too large. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Archimede Watches Klassik 39 SW highly for its timeless elegance and solid German engineering at its price point.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time for its visually stunning dials and excellent value, with many appreciating its size and design. The 4Rxx movement is reported to keep good time, ranging from -5/+5 seconds per day. Some owners note the lack of a sapphire crystal and occasional price concerns, though many feel it competes favorably with significantly more expensive watches. One owner specifically praises the Mockingbird dial, indices, hands, and crown, while finding the case design uninspired. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its dial aesthetics and value proposition.

From video reviewers

The dial finishing is exceptional for its price point. Quality control issues are a recurring problem with Seiko.