Archimede Watches Outdoor 41 ChronographvsKobold Phantom Black Ops

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Archimede Watches Outdoor 41 Chronograph at true scale

Outdoor 41 Chronograph

Kobold Phantom Black Ops at true scale

Phantom Black Ops

Diameter

41mm

41mm

Thickness

n/a

17mm

Water Resistance

200m

300m

highest

MSRP

$1,951

lowest

$6,450

Movement

Valjoux 7750

Valjoux 7750

Case

4 specs
Thickness
n/a
17mm
Lug-to-Lug
n/a
n/a
Lug Width
n/a
20mm
Water Resistance
200m
300m

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Crystal
n/a
Sapphire

Movement

1 specs
Power Reserve
n/a
0h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,951
$6,450
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Reviews

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Archimede Watches Outdoor 41 Chronograph

Archimede Watches Outdoor 41 Chronograph owners widely praise its hardened, brushed cushion case as a highlight, giving the watch a tough, in-house appearance. The 41mm case size is considered perfect by some, offering wearability for outdoor activities and physical labor, with a notably small lug-to-lug width compared to other chronographs. The watch is seen as a remarkable value, with one owner citing a price of $780 and another $1,500, offering a hardened case and bracelet comparable to higher-end brands and good resale value. The leather strap is also noted as a beautiful and comfortable design element. However, some owners find the dial's sparse layout and minute indices on an inner bezel make precise time reading difficult, and subdials detract from the dial's appeal, though the square pushers are generally liked. One owner reported the Valjoux 7750 movement running at +14 seconds per day with a wobbly rotor.

Kobold Phantom Black Ops

Owners widely report the Kobold Phantom Black Ops is well put together with a titanium build and appealing style, though one owner notes the subdials and day/date indicator are surprisingly subdued. Multiple owners express frustration with Kobold's customer service and perceived overpricing for value, citing managerial issues and lengthy repair times with unauthorized component changes, though one owner found the brand's Valjoux 7750 movement serviceable. On balance, owners appreciate the Kobold Phantom Black Ops' design and construction but are significantly deterred by brand service and value concerns.

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