Archimede Watches Pilot ChronographvsLIV Watches P-51
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Measurements
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Pilot Chronograph

P-51
Diameter
42mm
46mm
Lug-to-Lug
51mm
lowest
52.4mm
Thickness
13.6mm
lowest
15.5mm
Water Resistance
100m
300m
highest
Power Reserve
n/a
12h
MSRP
$2,183
lowest
$2,200
Movement
Valjoux 7750
Valjoux 7750
Case
6 specsMovement
1 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.
Owners widely praise the Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph for its excellent value, particularly for a Flieger chronograph with a Valjoux 7750 movement, with one owner calling it a remarkable value for just over $900. Reviewers and owners highlight its fantastic lume, light-reactive dial, and chronograph functionality, along with a perfect 42mm case size. Some owners note the lack of an anti-reflective coating on the sapphire crystal and wish for heat-blued hands or a date at 3:00. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph highly for its superb value and robust feature set at its price point.
Owners widely praise the LIV Watches P-51 for its excellent build quality, attention to detail, and striking pilot design, with many noting that images fail to capture its full appeal. Reviewers highlight its legibility, aided by BGW9 lume and an anti-reflective crystal, and its robust construction, including titanium and matte ceramic options. One owner notes the Valjoux 7750 movement is regulated to within +/- 4 seconds per day. However, one owner expresses concern about lume performance, referencing past discussions about LIV watches, and prices range from $550 to $1931 AUD depending on the specific model and variant. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the LIV Watches P-51 highly for its distinctive design and solid construction at its price point.
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