Archimede Watches Pilot ChronographvsLIV Watches P-51

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph at true scale

Pilot Chronograph

LIV Watches P-51 at true scale

P-51

Diameter

42mm

46mm

Lug-to-Lug

51mm

lowest

52.4mm

Thickness

13.6mm

lowest

15.5mm

Water Resistance

100m

300m

highest

Power Reserve

n/a

12h

MSRP

$2,183

lowest

$2,200

Movement

Valjoux 7750

Valjoux 7750

Case

6 specs
Diameter
42mm
46mm
Thickness
13.6mm
15.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
51mm
52.4mm
Lug Width
n/a
23mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Titanium
Water Resistance
100m
300m

Movement

1 specs
Power Reserve
n/a
12h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$2,183
$2,200
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Reviews

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Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph

Owners widely praise the Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph for its excellent value, particularly for a Flieger chronograph with a Valjoux 7750 movement, with one owner calling it a remarkable value for just over $900. Reviewers and owners highlight its fantastic lume, light-reactive dial, and chronograph functionality, along with a perfect 42mm case size. Some owners note the lack of an anti-reflective coating on the sapphire crystal and wish for heat-blued hands or a date at 3:00. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Archimede Watches Pilot Chronograph highly for its superb value and robust feature set at its price point.

LIV Watches P-51

Owners widely praise the LIV Watches P-51 for its excellent build quality, attention to detail, and striking pilot design, with many noting that images fail to capture its full appeal. Reviewers highlight its legibility, aided by BGW9 lume and an anti-reflective crystal, and its robust construction, including titanium and matte ceramic options. One owner notes the Valjoux 7750 movement is regulated to within +/- 4 seconds per day. However, one owner expresses concern about lume performance, referencing past discussions about LIV watches, and prices range from $550 to $1931 AUD depending on the specific model and variant. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the LIV Watches P-51 highly for its distinctive design and solid construction at its price point.

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