Astor + Banks AB1405vsLilienthal Berlin Neolux Blue Orange Leather Dark Blue

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Astor + Banks AB1405 at true scale

AB1405

Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Blue Orange Leather Dark Blue at true scale

Neolux Blue Orange Leather Dark Blue

Diameter

42mm

42mm

Water Resistance

50m

50m

MSRP

$1,499

$399

lowest

Movement

Manual

Miyota 8215

Case

2 specs
Lug Width
20mm
n/a
Finish
n/a
316L surgical steel

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Black
Galvanized

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
n/a
Miyota 8215
Type
Manual
Automatic
Hacking
No
Yes
Hand-winding
No
Yes

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,499
$399
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Astor + Banks AB1405

Owners widely praise the Astor + Banks AB1405 for its solid finishing and impressive bracelet, with one owner noting it is extremely well-regulated and accurate. The manual-wind movement is a point of discussion, with some finding it a great value for a mechanical watch. One reviewer flagged legibility issues with the fully lumed dial and a recessed date display. Overall, owners rate the Astor + Banks AB1405 highly for its build quality and value.

Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Blue Orange Leather Dark Blue

Owners widely report significant issues with shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some experiencing months-long waits and unreturned emails. The blue and orange color combination and sunburst dial are praised by some, who find it a good value. However, others note the dial colors appear paler than official images, and one owner found the SuperLuminova only on the hands disappointing. Some owners find Lilienthal Berlin watches to be good value with classy, minimalistic designs and solid build quality for the price, while others report poor customer service and issues with product quality. One owner found the watch's sharp edges and uncomfortable strap pins made it unwearable, while another noted machine-stamped dials and hands might lack finishing. Conversely, one user reported quick shipping, a good weight, clean lines, visible dial, and great lume.