Filippo Loreti Watches Ascari Skeleton Chrono VK63vsKobold Phantom SL Avantgarde
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Measurements
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Ascari Skeleton Chrono VK63

Phantom SL Avantgarde
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
13.4mm
lowest
17mm
Water Resistance
100m
200m
highest
MSRP
$295
lowest
$18,500
Movement
Seiko VK63
Valjoux 7750
Case
6 specsMovement
2 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
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Owners widely praise the Filippo Loreti Watches Ascari Skeleton Chrono VK63 for its visually appealing and unique skeletonized dial, with some finding good craftsmanship and standard specifications for the price. However, multiple owners report significant issues with product quality and customer service, including watches stopping working within a year and poor experiences with refunds and repairs. One owner notes the skeletonized dial is less useful than a 24-hour indicator, and the $225 price for a quartz movement is questioned as overpriced for perceived value. On balance, owners are split on the Filippo Loreti Watches Ascari Skeleton Chrono VK63, with strong opinions ranging from beautiful and good value to poor quality and overpriced.
Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.
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