IWC Schaffhausen Iw3583xx Portugieser AutomaticvsSeagull Small Second Sub Dial Dress 41mm

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Measurements

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IWC Schaffhausen Iw3583xx Portugieser Automatic at true scale

Iw3583xx Portugieser Automatic

Seagull Small Second Sub Dial Dress 41mm at true scale

Small Second Sub Dial Dress 41mm

Diameter

40.4mm

41mm

Lug-to-Lug

n/a

48.7mm

Thickness

12.3mm

11.3mm

lowest

Water Resistance

30m

50m

highest

Power Reserve

60h

n/a

MSRP

$7,700

$333

lowest

Movement

IWC Caliber 82xxx

ST2134

Case

6 specs
Diameter
40.4mm
41mm
Thickness
12.3mm
11.3mm
Lug-to-Lug
n/a
48.7mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Bronze
Finish
Steel
n/a
Water Resistance
30m
50m

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
n/a
Sapphire
Dial Color
Silver
n/a

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
IWC Caliber 82xxx
ST2134
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
0 vph
Power Reserve
60h
0h
Jewels
31
0
Hacking
Yes
No
Hand-winding
Yes
No

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$7,700
$333
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Reviews

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IWC Schaffhausen Iw3583xx Portugieser Automatic

The IWC Schaffhausen Iw3583xx Portugieser Automatic is widely praised for its timeless design and a comfortable 40.4mm case size, offering a daily-wearable, compact interpretation of the classic Portugieser aesthetic. Owners and reviewers highlight the in-house Calibre 82200 movement, noting its Pellaton winding system and attractive finishing with perlage and côtes de Genève. Some owners find the dial layout of larger variants more appealing, and one reviewer suggests the case could be slightly thinner, while others note the lugs appear long but curve well. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -7 seconds per day as advertised, and another experiencing winding issues that impacted power reserve. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the IWC Schaffhausen Iw3583xx Portugieser Automatic highly for its classic design and comfortable wearability in a more compact case.

Seagull Small Second Sub Dial Dress 41mm

Owners widely praise the ST2134 movement's automatic winding efficiency and hand-winding capability. One owner reports a power reserve of 45.4 hours and daily rates of +7.0 and +7.2 seconds, while another notes the movement runs 15-20 seconds fast per week. The watch is considered by some to look more expensive than its price tag suggests, with one owner noting the 6 o'clock sub-dial functions as a 30-second counter. However, the 41mm case size is frequently described as too large and thick for a dress watch, with some finding the dial design awkward and less impressive in person than in photos. Quality control for the serviceable movement is also flagged as a potential concern. Overall, owners are divided on the Seagull Small Second Sub Dial Dress Watch 41mm, with its value proposition tempered by significant concerns regarding its wearability as a dress watch due to its size.

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