Kobold Phantom SL AvantgardevsLaco Hockenheim

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde at true scale

Phantom SL Avantgarde

Laco Hockenheim at true scale

Hockenheim

Diameter

41mm

42mm

Thickness

17mm

14.2mm

lowest

Water Resistance

200m

highest

100m

Power Reserve

n/a

40h

MSRP

$18,500

$2,400

lowest

Movement

Valjoux 7750

Valjoux 7750

Case

6 specs
Diameter
41mm
42mm
Thickness
17mm
14.15mm
Lug-to-Lug
n/a
n/a
Lug Width
20mm
21mm
Material
Titanium
Stainless steel
Water Resistance
200m
100m

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
n/a
n/a

Movement

1 specs
Power Reserve
0h
40h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$18,500
$2,400
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde

Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.

Laco Hockenheim

Owners praise the Laco Hockenheim's Type B dial for legibility and lume. One owner reports consistent accuracy of +2.5 seconds per day and finds the manual winding feel superior to automatics. The community generally considers the quality decent, though not on par with higher-end brands. Some owners appreciate the chronograph's reduced 42mm case size. Overall, owners rate the Laco Hockenheim highly for its legible Type B dial and reliable timekeeping.