Kobold Phantom SL AvantgardevsLaco Hockenheim
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Measurements
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Phantom SL Avantgarde

Hockenheim
Diameter
41mm
42mm
Thickness
17mm
14.2mm
lowest
Water Resistance
200m
highest
100m
Power Reserve
n/a
40h
MSRP
$18,500
$2,400
lowest
Movement
Valjoux 7750
Valjoux 7750
Case
6 specsCrystal & Dial
1 specsMovement
1 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.
Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.
Owners praise the Laco Hockenheim's Type B dial for legibility and lume. One owner reports consistent accuracy of +2.5 seconds per day and finds the manual winding feel superior to automatics. The community generally considers the quality decent, though not on par with higher-end brands. Some owners appreciate the chronograph's reduced 42mm case size. Overall, owners rate the Laco Hockenheim highly for its legible Type B dial and reliable timekeeping.
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