Makina Andras_I BlackvsSeiko Presage Classic Series
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Measurements
Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Andras_I Black

Presage Classic Series
Diameter
33mm
40.2mm
Lug-to-Lug
44mm
lowest
46mm
Thickness
10.5mm
lowest
13mm
Water Resistance
50m
100m
highest
Power Reserve
n/a
72h
MSRP
$725
lowest
$1,125
Movement
Sellita SW260-1
Seiko 6R5J
Case
5 specsCrystal & Dial
2 specsMovement
3 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.
The MAKINA ANDRAS_I Black is widely praised for its unique, attractive rectangular case, exceptional case finishing with harsh bevels and slopes, and comfortable 33mm wearability. Reviewers note its multi-tiered dial design, sharp alpha hands, and the reliable Sellita SW260-1 automatic movement, with one review calling it Makina's best design to date. The brand originates from the Philippines and the watch is considered striking and unique. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the MAKINA ANDRAS_I Black highly for its striking design and exceptional case finishing at its price point.
Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series for its sublime dial and hand finishing, often considered superior at its price point. The textured dials, inspired by silk fabrics, are a consistent highlight, described as elegantly curved and subtly beautiful. The watches are noted for their robust elegance and value proposition, with some models featuring a 72-hour power reserve from the 6R51 or 6R55 movements. While some reviewers mention a 13mm thickness as an area for improvement on certain models, the 40.2mm case is generally considered to wear smaller. The pin and collar bracelet system on some variants is criticized, and the 24-hour subdial on one model is noted as potentially annoying to some. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Classic Series highly for its dial finishing and value at the price.
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