Makina Andras_II (Black)vsEcho/Neutra Rivanera

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Makina Andras_II (Black) at true scale

Andras_II (Black)

Echo/Neutra Rivanera at true scale

Rivanera

Diameter

33mm

40mm

Lug-to-Lug

44mm

n/a

Thickness

11.5mm

5.5mm

lowest

Water Resistance

50m

highest

30m

Power Reserve

42h

42h

MSRP

n/a

$1,810

Movement

Sellita SW260-1

ETA/Peseux 7001

Case

7 specs
Diameter
33mm
40mm
Thickness
11.5mm
5.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
44mm
n/a
Lug Width
n/a
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Titanium Grade 5 (sandblasted)
Finish
n/a
Polished + Sandblasted
Water Resistance
50m
30m

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
n/a
Flat
Dial Color
n/a
Black

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW260-1
ETA/Peseux 7001
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
0 vph
21,600 vph
Power Reserve
42h
42hh
Jewels
0
17
Complications
None
Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
n/a
$1,810
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Makina Andras_II (Black)

The Makina Andras_II (Black) is lauded for its unique, attractive rectangular case with sharp bevels and slopes, exceptional case finishing, and comfortable 33mm wearability. Reviewers highlight its multi-tiered dial design as sharp and mysterious, featuring a running seconds subdial and precise alpha hands. The reliable Sellita SW260-1 automatic movement is noted as a perfect fit, contributing to the watch's slender 10.5mm thickness. One reviewer considers it Makina's best design to date, unashamedly original and well-executed, while another describes the layered dial as an acquired taste. The watch is priced at US$800 and features a tactile black PVD coating. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Makina Andras_II (Black) highly for its distinctive design and impressive case finishing at its price point.

Echo/Neutra Rivanera

The Echo/Neutra Rivanera is widely praised for its exceptionally thin, lightweight Grade 5 titanium case, with reviewers noting profiles ranging from 5.5mm to 5.9mm, and a 40mm lug-to-lug measurement that some find requires an adjustment period. Owners and reviewers highlight the watch's respected ETA/Peseux 7001 manual-wind movement, its Art Deco-inspired design, and impressive packaging for its price point. Some enthusiasts note a preference for a smoother finish over the bead-blasted case, and the non-hacking nature of the movement is also mentioned. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Echo/Neutra Rivanera highly for its unique, slim titanium design and value proposition.

From video reviewers

The Rivanera's Grade 5 titanium case is a key selling point. Reviewers did not agree on whether the watch leans more towards a tool watch or a traditional dress watch.