Archimede Watches Klassik ChronographvsKobold Phantom SL Avantgarde

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph at true scale

Klassik Chronograph

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde at true scale

Phantom SL Avantgarde

Diameter

42mm

41mm

Lug-to-Lug

51mm

n/a

Thickness

13.6mm

lowest

17mm

Water Resistance

50m

200m

highest

MSRP

$2,276

lowest

$18,500

Movement

Valjoux 7750

Valjoux 7750

Case

5 specs
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
13.6mm
17mm
Lug-to-Lug
51mm
n/a
Material
Stainless Steel
Titanium
Water Resistance
50m
200m

Movement

1 specs
Power Reserve
n/a
0h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$2,276
$18,500
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph

Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph owners praise its uncluttered dial for excellent contrast and readability, and the hardened case for durability and comfortable wear. The watch is noted for its simple elegance, with blue hands and strap complementing each other well for casual and less formal occasions. One owner highlights the quality of the watch, mentioning it is a manual-wind conversion of a Valjoux 7753 to manage thickness. The textured dial and blued hands are also appreciated, as is the date window placement at the 6 o'clock position. The Archimede Klassik Chronograph is considered a fantastic GADA watch for its price, offering great quality and service from the family-owned company. On balance, owners rate the Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph highly for its elegant design and perceived quality at its price point.

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde

Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.