Archimede Watches Klassik ChronographvsKobold Phantom SL Avantgarde
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Measurements
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Klassik Chronograph

Phantom SL Avantgarde
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Lug-to-Lug
51mm
n/a
Thickness
13.6mm
lowest
17mm
Water Resistance
50m
200m
highest
MSRP
$2,276
lowest
$18,500
Movement
Valjoux 7750
Valjoux 7750
Case
5 specsMovement
1 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
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Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph owners praise its uncluttered dial for excellent contrast and readability, and the hardened case for durability and comfortable wear. The watch is noted for its simple elegance, with blue hands and strap complementing each other well for casual and less formal occasions. One owner highlights the quality of the watch, mentioning it is a manual-wind conversion of a Valjoux 7753 to manage thickness. The textured dial and blued hands are also appreciated, as is the date window placement at the 6 o'clock position. The Archimede Klassik Chronograph is considered a fantastic GADA watch for its price, offering great quality and service from the family-owned company. On balance, owners rate the Archimede Watches Klassik Chronograph highly for its elegant design and perceived quality at its price point.
Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.
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