Charlie Paris Watches Initial 36 - Jour/Nuit - Aventurine DorévsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time
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Measurements
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Initial 36 - Jour/Nuit - Aventurine Doré

Presage Cocktail Time
Diameter
36mm
40.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
42mm
n/a
Thickness
10mm
lowest
11.8mm
Water Resistance
30m
50m
highest
Power Reserve
40h
41h
highest
MSRP
$745
$475
lowest
Movement
Miyota 82S7
Seiko 4R35
Case
5 specsCrystal & Dial
3 specsMovement
3 specsPricing
1 specsReviews
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Owners find the Charlie Paris Watches INITIAL 36 - Jour/Nuit - Aventurine Doré to be an attractive and good value purchase. Some owners would prefer a date complication and a luminous dial, and one user wished the 36mm case was thinner. The Miyota 82S7 movement is described as a decent, functional workhorse. Overall, owners rate the Charlie Paris Watches INITIAL 36 - Jour/Nuit - Aventurine Doré highly for its affordability and attractive design.
Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time for its visually stunning dials and excellent value, with many appreciating its size and design. The 4Rxx movement is reported to keep good time, ranging from -5/+5 seconds per day. Some owners note the lack of a sapphire crystal and occasional price concerns, though many feel it competes favorably with significantly more expensive watches. One owner specifically praises the Mockingbird dial, indices, hands, and crown, while finding the case design uninspired. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its dial aesthetics and value proposition.
The dial finishing is exceptional for its price point. Quality control issues are a recurring problem with Seiko.
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