Kobold Phantom SL AvantgardevsKobold Polar Surveyor Chronograph

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Measurements

Catalog photos are all shot at the same flattering size. These aren't: every case below shares one millimeter scale.

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde at true scale

Phantom SL Avantgarde

Kobold Polar Surveyor Chronograph at true scale

Polar Surveyor Chronograph

Diameter

41mm

41mm

Thickness

17mm

17mm

Water Resistance

200m

300m

highest

MSRP

$18,500

$8,750

lowest

Movement

Valjoux 7750

Valjoux 7754

Case

2 specs
Material
Titanium
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
200m
300m

Movement

1 specs
Caliber
Valjoux 7750
Valjoux 7754

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$18,500
$8,750
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Reviews

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde

Owners report the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde can be found for better value on the secondary market, though customer service issues and long repair times are significant concerns for some. One owner reported a crown threading issue on their steel Phantom, while another experienced the same problem on a titanium model. Despite these drawbacks, some owners still appreciate the watch's style and build quality. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Phantom SL Avantgarde with mixed feelings due to customer service concerns despite appreciating its style and build quality.

Kobold Polar Surveyor Chronograph

Owners widely praise the Kobold Polar Surveyor Chronograph's rugged American-made styling and solid build quality, with many appreciating its aesthetic appeal and suitability for daily wear across various settings. Some owners note the watch's light titanium construction and its prestige, valuing the brand's narrative. However, significant and recurring criticism targets the brand's owner and business practices, including accusations of scamming, undelivered watches, poor customer service, and excessively long repair times, leading some to deem the brand overpriced. Owners are split on value, with some finding it a good purchase on the secondary market while others feel the pricing is incongruent with the use of a stock ETA movement and a steel case. Overall, owners rate the Kobold Polar Surveyor Chronograph highly for its distinctive styling and robust build, despite significant concerns regarding the brand's business practices.