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Lorier AstravsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Astra
LorierAstra
MSRP $599
Presage Cocktail Time
SeikoPresage Cocktail Time
MSRP $475

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Astra36mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Astra40h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Astra50m
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Astra$599
Presage Cocktail Time$475

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Field
Dress
Diameter
36mm
40.5mm
Thickness
11.8mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
18mm
20mm

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Standard
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
4R35
Power Reserve
40h
41h
Jewels
25
23

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$599
$475

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What people say

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Lorier Astra

The Lorier Astra is praised for its outstanding details and design language, hitting a "dressy sports watch" vibe with a beautiful sector dial and lume. Owners note its versatile, do-it-all design with classic proportions and refined details like beveled markers, making it suitable for both formal and casual wear. The watch wears slightly larger than its 36mm case suggests, closer to 38mm, with lugs that taper and curve downward to fit well on smaller wrists. However, the bracelet feels a bit light, some screws are difficult to remove, and the Miyota movement can gain around 8 seconds in 12 hours with potentially offset date numerals. On balance, owners rate the Lorier Astra highly for its dressy sports watch aesthetic and refined details at its price point.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time for its visually stunning dials and excellent value, with the 4Rxx movement keeping good time, ranging from -5/+5 seconds per day. The watch is appreciated for its size and design, though some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and occasionally question the price, feeling it competes with significantly more expensive timepieces. One reviewer specifically praised the Mockingbird dial, indices, hands, and crown, but found the case design uninspired. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its striking dial aesthetics and strong value proposition.

From video reviewers

The dial finishing is exceptional for its price point. Quality control issues are a recurring problem with Seiko.

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